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Ruch
06-19-2007, 01:00 PM
First of all, Hello everybody!

After almost 3 years, i raised my paladin to the rank of Phoenix Knight.
Im quite happy for my success, i think few people did it until now.

I tried different setups (not many due to my lack of adena) but ill like to know whats ur opinion about the different setups.

My current setup in NM set max enchanted (not OE) and majestic jewels max enchanted (now crafting tateo).
As weapons i allways used my Damascus +6 Focus for pve and DLE+4 health for pvp, raids, dangerous areas where HP is needed.

I just removed my pve dyes (+4STR +4DEX -8CON) as grinding is not anymore my main purpouse.

I use NM set because i am in a pvp ally, and i was always the sleeping tank.....

Now That i can have wisdom (+30% sleep/root resist), and because i cant afford an IC set atm, i am thinking in changing to DC heavy.
Why DC? Mainly because of this +17% to shield rate.
DC heavy pdef < NM heavy but for this 17% of hits blocked, pdef will be better and remember that since we can block nukes this is more and more important.
This +4% heal bonus is not important at all, but will be nice at the end if for this lance's setup.
In addition it has this +50% paralyze resist, which i know is worst than the NM bonus, but at least it gives u something.
About the stats bonus, it really doesn't mind if u got NM, DC or whatever because u can always fix them with dyes.

Apart from DC heavy also we have this doom +6 set.
It looks cool and i think that with the bonus it gives around 500 pdef which is > than NM or DC and it has this +24% shield rate wich is so cool, in the other hand u dont have the A grade bonus (the special % resist)


So which Setup did u tried and what is your conclusion? Im really interested to know the setups u tried as most of tanks i know are DA (who has the panther, so can focus more on a defensive setup) or SK, wich is the pvp tank, imo.


I rode this Lance's post about the uber autoealing-pk and seems amazing, but the crude reality is that atm, or im a super unskilled pvp player (which has some points xD) or realy this char is totally nerfed in pvp.

Yes, we have shackle and stun (our best pvp friends :-P) but this is not enuff to kill almost any other class (we speak properly buffed) or u have a different opinion? Do u have a Phoenix Knight and u are able to pvp properly? please tell wich setup u use xD.


One more thing.
We all know, tanks are hard to party and in addition we are not uber-solo classes xD.
In the other hand i seen some SK soloing taking advantage of a nice skill they have ;-P

Then, thinking in this PK skill: Banish undead, do u think there is a nice spot where to solo, spamming this skill?
Do u know which is the change to destroy an undead by it? kk, its random, but at which percent? Did u tried?
Is the land percent related to the caster vs mob level?
Do u know a spot with only undeads about level 75+ doesnt mind if mobs are x4 x5 or x10 life because the purpouse is not to hit them but to banish them ^^

Thanks all and hope to see some answers xD
Note: Sorry for my English :)

warefare
06-20-2007, 11:29 AM
Welcome Ruch and gratz on LvL76 =D

DC is a good choice for paladins imo and the 50% para resistance is way better than reflecting 4dmg on your enemy.
A +6 Doom Set might be better than both NM and DC thou, because the mana regen is awesome and it has more Pdef then.
It's true Lance's setup is not for the average player because it's really expensive, however I think you can at least
try the basic setup. It's not so hard to get DC, Orfen Earring and a SoM.
At 77 you will get Shield Slam (for the exact difference between slam and bash search the forums) that's a good skill for PvP and if you can make it to 79 you get


Soul of the Phoenix : 100% EXP Ressurection Self-Buff. Target retains all buffs/debuffs and will be fully recoverd (full hp/mp), but Blessing of Noblesse and Seal of Fortune will disappear.
Note: It's a 30min selfbuff; (thanks to Azulenia and Lance)
( LvL 79 Skill)
Mana consumption: 250 MP
LvL 1: 80m SP
Cooldown time: 60min


which is pretty awesome because you have two lives then.

Oh and you might be interested in this post here:

banish-seraph-and-other-lethal-strike-skill-t518,start,30.html#p2612 (http://l2warfare.com/banish-seraph-and-other-lethal-strike-skill-t518,start,30.html#p2612)


well ye, nice for da / sk, did the same for a very short time with my pally on undead mobs, problem is: there is almost no place where you have enough undead mobs at one place. most of them are demons or some other evil shit, but it only works on undeads -.-. kinda sux. also there aint rly a place with a good quest to make enough adena from, since the only place where i had enough undead mobs was in catacombs. in pagan / IT etc most have another race ><

Ruch
06-20-2007, 01:28 PM
Welcome Ruch and gratz on LvL76 =D

Thanks xD

Yes, at first ill try this DC set, and check how it goes because atm, Doom +6 seems to be too much rare on the server (lionna)

Moreover i tried in th past and i lost too much adena in the try.
Ill keep an eye on this epic jewels and if i can found a Orfen ill go fast for a som, anyways i need a som as my sub is necromancer.

Ruch
07-10-2007, 04:12 PM
I have the chance to buy a Doom +6.

Do u think its better to wear than the DC or the NM set?

binylapla
08-08-2007, 04:25 AM
hey, gratz on 76. I have a lvl 78 Phoenix Knight on Kain and I'm really happy with him in terms of pvp and raid tanking. That's his main use. I tried every single A grade set on him, depending on what I wanted to do. Tallum heavy with tallum blade haste is quite awesome, u get really nice atk speed, with angelic icon u get over 1k atk speed. Majestic is good looking but i didn't like it much stun is not a problem for humans with high CON and passive stun resist. I prefer using dark crystal or NM, they both work in tanking and pvp, NM resistance to sleep and hold is awesome, 1 / 30 roots or sleep land on me, even from 76+ chars. In sieges u really need this bonus. On the other hand, DC is really good against mages, specially against Necros, damn i hate anchor hehe and it lands quite often. Anchor = overpowered imo. Shield defense rate is cool, u really notice it when u have it. Right now i'm using NM because i got the +6 set 8) . I'm still missing the IC BP though. I think PKs are great, but u need to use all of your skills in a duel if u want to win. When u get touch of life your strategies will change hehe, I always let meelee classes to spam all the skills and waste mp at the begining and then when they think they took me down, i just UD, Touch of Life, sacrifice, holy blessing an i get my 7k HP back :P and i still have vengeance and angelic icon left. PvP duels are long but fun hehe. Against mages... well its a matter of luck i think, but i do quite well, if arrest lands u have chances to win, cause u stun (OE stun recovery) like once every 2 secs lol. Well, hope this helps, I love playing my PK, specially when ppl say: "omg never seen a Phoenix Knight before" hehehe we r rare.

Ruch
08-08-2007, 08:33 AM
Gratzz!!78 seems Awesome :)

Well at the end, i sold my NM armor and my DC.
Finally i went for Doom +6 which i like very much. I don't have MP problems anymore .. hehehe i like to spam aggression... and it gives +50 pdef more than the standard NM set +4/+3. In addition the hp bonus, the armor modifiers and this +25% shield success so its great and when combined with shield fortress, u stop almost all hits so gives a good advantadge.

Of course A grade +6 is nicer but i dont own one :)

Since now i was mainly using NM because of the sleep/root but in mass pvp its almost useless, few ppl tries to sleep/root enemies... well i do a lot (shackle) but its because its uber :) and if lands, the enemie can start to pray ;-P

Dunno how pvp will be at 78 when u have the skills, but atm the 76 skills .....

When u say that u can UD, then Touch of Life and autosacrifice? + holy blessing to get 7K hp back, u mean that Sacrifice + Touch gives a net HP, or what u mean. U need to cast many times the sacrifice + holy or with 1 time is enuff?
U use boss jewels? or just tatoessian?

About dyes what u use?
At the moment i have +4 DEX -4CON and the +4 WIT -5INT (or +4 MEN, don't remember)

regards

Azulenia
08-19-2007, 11:47 PM
hey there.

first things first: self sacrifice wont work at all before you are lvl 78 (touch of life), and even then, you need atleast orfen earring to make it worth it. also enchanting it on either power or cost (im not sure which one is more effective here) should be worth it.

you should atleast try to aim at getting lvl 77, because the lvl 76 skills really aint worth anything :). shield slam is not bad, and especially vengeance is a cool skill (imagine it like UD lvl 3).

with the ud + touch of life + sacrifice etc he is refering to the so called "self sacrifice", because touch of life gives a 30% heal bonus and a nice instant heal it is possible to create +hp without paying a single mp for it. this needs at least toch of life tho, and heal bonus boss jewels and overenchanted sacrifice help aswell.

for the dyes: im really not that much of a fan of the +dex setups on tanks. the shield block rate difference doesnt seem noticable, and the atk speed / speed bonus aint so great. no need to talk about evasion i think =P. i prefer a +str setup to get the needed dmg output.

also, +4 wit -4 int is self explaining imo, even tho it does have a slightly negative effect on your heal power tho (since the less m.atk), the cast speed bonus is ALOT more important imo.

hope i could help :)